To play 1080p content without having to spend time converting it to a lower resolution. Do you want to just run a movie and have it work, or do you want to start fiddling with conversions? heck, most people don't know how to convert, so if they have a 1080p file they want to play...
plus there is the issue of headroom and inflated advertised capabilities... i find that only things that claim to be able to play 1080p smoothly can play 720p smoothly (while typically stuttering on some 1080p content)
most people have to fiddle with conversions anyway, as it appears to support only level 3.1 baseline profile. Most people's videos will need to be converted from level 4.1 high profile.
Its standard for the cellular radio to have its own dedicated processor that does all the communication duties. The proprietary software running on this processor is supplied by the chip manufacturer and is kept a secret. Its not part of the phones main operation system (no android/ios/win7 here).
This is what I would want in a netbook or home theater PC. A CPU that can do streaming 180P HD video. Seriously put this think in a new version of the WD live or similar box and I am buying.
Forgive my ignorance, but for what would you need an mkv splitter on an htpc? I use an htpc as a front-end consumption device. Seems like an mkv splitter is more of a creation-time problem.
Fermi and a mobile phone gpu are so different that your comment smacks of anti-Nvidia (pro-ATI?) FUD. Or complete lack of any technical knowledge. I vote for the former.
I fully expect battery life to be sub-par with something like this, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't still want it in a tablet/slate form factor. I'm just not sure it's the best thing for a smart phone.
Here is a look of things to come regarding the Tegra 2 performance. Since some smartbooks and tablets have been released in Europe with Android 2.1 OS.
Someone needs to get me excited about a dual core cell phone. I was psyched earlier this year about it, but now that I have my EVO I'm having my doubts. I travel extensively, and I'll admit, I've actually used my HDMI out to watch movies on flat screens in hotel rooms. The cool factor is there. Until we actually have micro SDXC cards (I'm calling vaporware on this... January of 2009 and we don't have any micro sdxc stuff yet folks?!?!? Come on!!)... I just don't have any interest in having 1080p content on my cell phone. I'm loving the snappy response of my 1ghz, but can't think of anything I could use more power for. We just don't have the software that needs it yet, and I wonder if it's really coming. To be honest, I always bring my netbook with me on my travels, and I'm way more excited about Sandy Bridge and Fusion with the potential for an instant four fold increase in performance. So long as I have that device, which can do 1080p with little effort... why sacrifice battery life on my cell phone? I'll gladly make the jump from netbook to a pricier notebook with performance and battery life.
Gaming... start building bluetooth controllers for phones and some SERIOUS games, and I'll buy a dual-core cell phone. I mean, high quality action adventure, FPS, RPG kind of games. I don't want to pay $3.99 for a tower defense game, they are fun, but I want to pay $10 for an awesome 3D action adventure.
Make me a believer guys, I haven't found limitations on my current platform, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. Why do I want a dual-core cell phone?
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wimbet - Monday, September 6, 2010 - link
The Tegra 2 can do 1080p BP 30fps at 10mbps, according to company reports from Morgan Stanley Research.Lifted - Tuesday, September 7, 2010 - link
Why would I need 1080p on my phone? Recording I can sort of understand, but playback?Exodite - Tuesday, September 7, 2010 - link
DLNA or HDMI out. Streaming from the phone is, at least for me, both viable and desirable.lincc275 - Tuesday, September 7, 2010 - link
twetwetwetwetaltamir - Tuesday, September 7, 2010 - link
To play 1080p content without having to spend time converting it to a lower resolution.Do you want to just run a movie and have it work, or do you want to start fiddling with conversions? heck, most people don't know how to convert, so if they have a 1080p file they want to play...
plus there is the issue of headroom and inflated advertised capabilities... i find that only things that claim to be able to play 1080p smoothly can play 720p smoothly (while typically stuttering on some 1080p content)
sprockkets - Tuesday, September 7, 2010 - link
And Samsung expects us to get legal 1080p content where? Will it play mkv files with DTS as the only audio track? Doubt it.And these files are 10GB in size or more. Playing such content is rather stringing it.
mindbomb - Wednesday, September 8, 2010 - link
most people have to fiddle with conversions anyway, as it appears to support only level 3.1 baseline profile.Most people's videos will need to be converted from level 4.1 high profile.
mindbomb - Tuesday, September 7, 2010 - link
baseline profile....aka only minor improvement over mpeg2:(
sprockkets - Tuesday, September 7, 2010 - link
where did you get that misinformation? h.264/Mpeg4-avc at BP is BETTER than Mpeg-4-ASP aka loser divxmianmian - Monday, September 6, 2010 - link
Is it to save power while running not-so-demanding application?Zok - Tuesday, September 7, 2010 - link
Maybe it could be there for northbridge-esque delegation duties? Handling IO with radios, keypad, etc. that is "on" all the time.etal2 - Tuesday, September 7, 2010 - link
Its standard for the cellular radio to have its own dedicated processor that does all the communication duties.The proprietary software running on this processor is supplied by the chip manufacturer and is kept a secret. Its not part of the phones main operation system (no android/ios/win7 here).
Anand Lal Shimpi - Tuesday, September 7, 2010 - link
The ARM7 core is used for SoC management, it doesn't handle any user code.Take care,
Anand
sprockkets - Tuesday, September 7, 2010 - link
LG has been a loyal supporter of WinMob. Doubt it if they go Android but who's to say at this point.adonn78 - Tuesday, September 7, 2010 - link
This is what I would want in a netbook or home theater PC. A CPU that can do streaming 180P HD video. Seriously put this think in a new version of the WD live or similar box and I am buying.sprockkets - Tuesday, September 7, 2010 - link
Well if Boxee would ever come out...mindbomb - Tuesday, September 7, 2010 - link
you can't really match the flexibility of an actual htpc.for one, this thing will almost certainly not have an mkv splitter.
icrf - Tuesday, September 7, 2010 - link
Forgive my ignorance, but for what would you need an mkv splitter on an htpc? I use an htpc as a front-end consumption device. Seems like an mkv splitter is more of a creation-time problem.7Enigma - Tuesday, September 7, 2010 - link
Fermi and a mobile phone gpu are so different that your comment smacks of anti-Nvidia (pro-ATI?) FUD. Or complete lack of any technical knowledge. I vote for the former.icrf - Tuesday, September 7, 2010 - link
I fully expect battery life to be sub-par with something like this, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't still want it in a tablet/slate form factor. I'm just not sure it's the best thing for a smart phone.Rayb - Tuesday, September 7, 2010 - link
Here is a look of things to come regarding the Tegra 2 performance. Since some smartbooks and tablets have been released in Europe with Android 2.1 OS.http://carrypad.com/2010/08/29/tegra-2-first-bench...
Judging by the results, it's not a bad start.
Pirks - Tuesday, September 7, 2010 - link
No specific devices/models announced for the holidays, from any major phone maker. So I guess Intel lost this round again. Right?j.harper12 - Monday, October 25, 2010 - link
Someone needs to get me excited about a dual core cell phone. I was psyched earlier this year about it, but now that I have my EVO I'm having my doubts. I travel extensively, and I'll admit, I've actually used my HDMI out to watch movies on flat screens in hotel rooms. The cool factor is there. Until we actually have micro SDXC cards (I'm calling vaporware on this... January of 2009 and we don't have any micro sdxc stuff yet folks?!?!? Come on!!)... I just don't have any interest in having 1080p content on my cell phone. I'm loving the snappy response of my 1ghz, but can't think of anything I could use more power for. We just don't have the software that needs it yet, and I wonder if it's really coming. To be honest, I always bring my netbook with me on my travels, and I'm way more excited about Sandy Bridge and Fusion with the potential for an instant four fold increase in performance. So long as I have that device, which can do 1080p with little effort... why sacrifice battery life on my cell phone? I'll gladly make the jump from netbook to a pricier notebook with performance and battery life.Gaming... start building bluetooth controllers for phones and some SERIOUS games, and I'll buy a dual-core cell phone. I mean, high quality action adventure, FPS, RPG kind of games. I don't want to pay $3.99 for a tower defense game, they are fun, but I want to pay $10 for an awesome 3D action adventure.
Make me a believer guys, I haven't found limitations on my current platform, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. Why do I want a dual-core cell phone?