Cell Shock, Corsair, and Kingston Introduce Ultra Speed DDR3
by Wesley Fink on October 11, 2007 10:00 PM EST- Posted in
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Conclusion
The recent performance improvements in DDR3 memory have far exceeded anything the end user or industry expected to see in such a short period of time. It is easy to heap praise on DDR3 memory that now routinely reaches DDR3-2000 speed. Put into perspective, the highest official DDR2 speed remains DDR2-800 with the best DDR2 memory performing in the 1100 to1300 range depending on the board and the custom timings that are used.
On the other hand DDR3 launched in July of this year at DDR3-1066 and has quickly ramped up to routine DDR3-2000 performance. Motherboard chipsets and motherboard makers were not completely prepared for a memory speed ramp up of this magnitude. This is evident everywhere with no real 1600 or 2000 ratios available in DDR3 chipsets. You can only achieve such speeds as overclock options.
With the small number of DDR3 kits that we had tested, and that were available for review, it was hard to tell whether these 2000+ speeds were the result of great binning and programming by the likes of OCZ and Super Talent, or whether they were more attributable to the Micron Z9 memory chips themselves. We now have enough test samples to at least begin to answer this question.
With the three additional Micron-based memory kits tested in this review a total of five Z9-based memory kits have been tested at AnandTech. All five reach DDR3-2000 or above as their highest stable memory speed. Today's three kits, all released in a similar time frame, reach 2044/2040/2040 as their highest speed - the same as slightly older OCZ at 2040MHz. Even more amazing is the tight clustering of timings and voltages at every tested memory speed with these 2GB kits. Every kit reaches all but the same timings at the same speed at virtually the same voltage. These results are the most tightly clustered performance results we have ever seen in many years of testing memory.
This can only lead to one of two conclusions. Perhaps all the small to large to specialized memory companies have now reached the same level of expertise in binning, programming SPD, and developing high-performance PCBs for the Micron Z9 chips. We find this possibility extremely unlikely. Or second, the Micron Z9 chips are very uniform as delivered and capable of similar performance. We find this the more likely scenario. This leads to the Micron chips as being the primary push of DDR3 memory to 2000+ speeds.
There is significant expertise in the enthusiast memory market, and that may mean we have not seen the end of higher and higher performing DDR3 modules based on Micron Z9 chips. Other memory makers will also make top performing chips to compete, and some may do it even better than the Micron chips we now have. All of these are good possibilities for the future of DDR3.
However, the best thing that can happen to DDR3 is wide adoption by enthusiasts and significant price drops. There are plenty of reasons to buy DDR3 and it is clearly the fastest memory you can buy today. Unfortunately price is not one of those reasons.
The fact that all of the five Micron-based DDR3-1800 kits perform all but the same in our testing means that you can select any one of these memories based on value and cost. You can also add to that list the new Kingston DDR3-1625 CAS7 (PC3-13000) which performs exactly the same at each speed and overclocks just as high as the slightly more expensive Kingston DDR3-1800C8. This is good news for buyers, but it is not particularly good for memory makers, since they prefer a scenario where real performance differences among memory brands can justify price differences. For now, top DDR3 looks like it will become a price war, but that may change as memory companies try to add more value.
With Micron chips performing so well compared to other DDR3 memory chips, they are naturally demanding a premium in the marketplace. Until another memory manufacturer has something very close in performance to Micron, prices will likely remain high. Another possibility might be a huge manufacturer like Samsung having a lower performance DDR3 chip but buying market share with extremely low pricing. Unfortunately there is little incentive for that event until the DDR3 market grows significantly.
We all know DDR3 memory prices will definitely drop; we just don't know when. However, if the price of admission for DDR3 does not kill the deal for you, DDR3 based on Z9 Micron chips will reward you with standout performance. We have found performance to be so good and so consistent that for now you can really choose a new DDR3 memory kit based on Micron chips just by comparing price, warranty, and other value factors. Performance in our testing has consistently been all but dead even at the top of DDR3.
The recent performance improvements in DDR3 memory have far exceeded anything the end user or industry expected to see in such a short period of time. It is easy to heap praise on DDR3 memory that now routinely reaches DDR3-2000 speed. Put into perspective, the highest official DDR2 speed remains DDR2-800 with the best DDR2 memory performing in the 1100 to1300 range depending on the board and the custom timings that are used.
On the other hand DDR3 launched in July of this year at DDR3-1066 and has quickly ramped up to routine DDR3-2000 performance. Motherboard chipsets and motherboard makers were not completely prepared for a memory speed ramp up of this magnitude. This is evident everywhere with no real 1600 or 2000 ratios available in DDR3 chipsets. You can only achieve such speeds as overclock options.
With the small number of DDR3 kits that we had tested, and that were available for review, it was hard to tell whether these 2000+ speeds were the result of great binning and programming by the likes of OCZ and Super Talent, or whether they were more attributable to the Micron Z9 memory chips themselves. We now have enough test samples to at least begin to answer this question.
With the three additional Micron-based memory kits tested in this review a total of five Z9-based memory kits have been tested at AnandTech. All five reach DDR3-2000 or above as their highest stable memory speed. Today's three kits, all released in a similar time frame, reach 2044/2040/2040 as their highest speed - the same as slightly older OCZ at 2040MHz. Even more amazing is the tight clustering of timings and voltages at every tested memory speed with these 2GB kits. Every kit reaches all but the same timings at the same speed at virtually the same voltage. These results are the most tightly clustered performance results we have ever seen in many years of testing memory.
This can only lead to one of two conclusions. Perhaps all the small to large to specialized memory companies have now reached the same level of expertise in binning, programming SPD, and developing high-performance PCBs for the Micron Z9 chips. We find this possibility extremely unlikely. Or second, the Micron Z9 chips are very uniform as delivered and capable of similar performance. We find this the more likely scenario. This leads to the Micron chips as being the primary push of DDR3 memory to 2000+ speeds.
There is significant expertise in the enthusiast memory market, and that may mean we have not seen the end of higher and higher performing DDR3 modules based on Micron Z9 chips. Other memory makers will also make top performing chips to compete, and some may do it even better than the Micron chips we now have. All of these are good possibilities for the future of DDR3.
However, the best thing that can happen to DDR3 is wide adoption by enthusiasts and significant price drops. There are plenty of reasons to buy DDR3 and it is clearly the fastest memory you can buy today. Unfortunately price is not one of those reasons.
The fact that all of the five Micron-based DDR3-1800 kits perform all but the same in our testing means that you can select any one of these memories based on value and cost. You can also add to that list the new Kingston DDR3-1625 CAS7 (PC3-13000) which performs exactly the same at each speed and overclocks just as high as the slightly more expensive Kingston DDR3-1800C8. This is good news for buyers, but it is not particularly good for memory makers, since they prefer a scenario where real performance differences among memory brands can justify price differences. For now, top DDR3 looks like it will become a price war, but that may change as memory companies try to add more value.
With Micron chips performing so well compared to other DDR3 memory chips, they are naturally demanding a premium in the marketplace. Until another memory manufacturer has something very close in performance to Micron, prices will likely remain high. Another possibility might be a huge manufacturer like Samsung having a lower performance DDR3 chip but buying market share with extremely low pricing. Unfortunately there is little incentive for that event until the DDR3 market grows significantly.
We all know DDR3 memory prices will definitely drop; we just don't know when. However, if the price of admission for DDR3 does not kill the deal for you, DDR3 based on Z9 Micron chips will reward you with standout performance. We have found performance to be so good and so consistent that for now you can really choose a new DDR3 memory kit based on Micron chips just by comparing price, warranty, and other value factors. Performance in our testing has consistently been all but dead even at the top of DDR3.
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geok1ng - Thursday, August 28, 2008 - link
looking at http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&am...">http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&am... one may wish that an E8600 can reach 10x400Mhz using 2:1 divider + tRD 5 + DDR3 1600 for top notch performance. I look forward for FSB 400/DDR3 1600 CAS 6 examples of memory performance.mandos9 - Tuesday, November 6, 2007 - link
"The recent performance improvements in DDR3 memory have far exceeded anything the end user or industry expected to see in such a short period of time. "The performance improvement is,in comparison to ddr2,5-7fps.That's almost nothing,especially when the games you test already run at 100+ fps(why don't you test it on the crysis demo or games that have come out more recently?).
I don't see why i should spend 600(or 300 for that matter) euro to upgrade my pc, when i can buy a second 8800GT for 250 euro and get 30 or more fps.
Nobody would buy ddr3 for performance. I can only see me buying it if i want a new mobo which i will not have to replace in a year or two.
nrb - Monday, October 15, 2007 - link
Oh joy, yet another anandtech article where I can't see any of the graphs. How many more years are you guys going to allow this to go on?(sigh)
Wesley Fink - Monday, October 15, 2007 - link
The charts are all there. We can read them fine in IE and Firefox. I just double-chescked to make sure there are no broken links. Can you please let us know what you are using as a browser?DrMrLordX - Saturday, October 13, 2007 - link
Why have you not included latency numbers as measured in cycles and/or nanoseconds?goinginstyle - Friday, October 12, 2007 - link
Do you think we could see a DDR2 memory review? Only about 90% of the desktop systems released in the last couple of years use it and considering the unbelievably low prices now it would be nice to see a review of memory that people actually use. It is getting boring to see $650~$900 memory reviewed when most of us cannot even begin to think about buying it or even can afford it if we wanted to change. Show us some results on memory that most people use now.Wesley Fink - Monday, October 15, 2007 - link
The Kingston DDR3, which performed at the top of our test results, has a MSRP of $450 for the 2GB kit - NOT 650-900. It is still much higher than DDR2 but prices are starting to come down.We do have a DDR2 roundup coming in the near future. However, if you look back at the DDR2 review you will find many of the currently available DDR2 memory has been reviewed at AT before the introduction of DDR3.
retrospooty - Friday, October 12, 2007 - link
at DDR 2000 at 6X500 CPU the best sisoft standard memory score for DDR3 is 9138 at DDR3 2000 8-7-6-18 ... I get 8871 with my DDR2 1000mhz at 4-4-4-10 with a similar setup on a DFI P35 mobo.Thats a lot of cash for an extra 267 mb per second bandwidth. Granted my memory setting are highly tuned, but the speed difference is even smaller than I had imagined. I would say the "dramatic" speed increases are totally crippled by the "dramatic" latency penalties. Hopefully in a year or 2 we will see some lower latencies.
Wesley Fink - Monday, October 15, 2007 - link
Congratulations on your great Buffered bandwidth scores with DDR2. We use a standardized setup and do not really tweak timings as you have. Any of our test results can ge tweaked to produce much higher test results, so it is best to compare apples to apples.At 1066 our DDR3 at 5-4-3-9 timings is an Sandra bandwidth of 6763, while you get 8871, a difference of 2100+. We are confident we could tweak the 1066 timings to pick up the 2100 points since the latest DDR-3 based on Z9 chips is testing equal or faster than the fastest DDR2 at the same speed at 1066 or above. That means DDR3-2000 could be 2300+ higher when tweaked for top bandwidth. In addition the fastest possible BIOS timings at 1066 with DDR3 are 5-3-3-5, and we are not far from that.
If you check some enthusiast postings where they tweak the DDR3 for bandwidth you will find bandwidths exceeding 11000 on Sandra with Z9 based dimms. I suspect you already know this.
Anonymous Freak - Thursday, October 11, 2007 - link
At the top of each page of the article is the list of places to buy:That's all well and good. But the last four are the same company. (Ritz Camera owns Wolf, Camera World, and PhotoAlley.)